Last Sunday's Conversation

posted by Jeffrey on Monday, June 13, 2005 at 9:10 AM

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Last night we engaged in conversation about Acts 3:1-10. In this passage, a man lame from birth and begging at the Temple gate called Beautiful, is healed by the power of Jesus' name spoken by Peter and John. As usual, our conversation quickly diverted to things of a broader scope.

As we discussed the significance of Peter and John "looking straight at him", the location of where he was sitting, how they helped him up and took him with them once he had been healed, and etc, we began to raise questions like, "What do we do when we pray for healing today and that person isn't healed?" Shaunna (my beautiful wife) contributed the thought that, for someone who is in fact a Christian, God's idea of healing may actually be death--in which they step into the fullness of His presence and feel no more pain.

Running with this thought, we also discovered that many times we only pray for "healing" when it profits us and happens to be a loved one--i.e., out of selfishness. I guess it's important to note that in this passage this man was most likely a total stranger. Let me take a break to say that it is obvious in the Bible that God DOES care about the healing of our loved ones (see the story of Lazarus).

Then the conversation some how took a more philosophical turn. We began to discuss what we perceive as "reality" is merely a "poor reflection" of the true and unknown reality that exists beyond this realm that we call life. Plato's allegory of the cave (used in The Republic) was brought up as well as C.S. Lewis's description of this life being merely lived in the "shadowlands" of true reality--and yes (because I finished the book yesterday), I took the opportunity to incorporate ideas and themes from the final pages of The Last Battle.

Another great week of conversation...many times, it's so much more fun to discuss and explore the written Word of God together than alone.


Blogger Rick said...

it's so much more fun to discuss and explore the written Word of God together than alone.

Too true Jeffrey...

you're always welcome to hang with us...this week it's Wed 5:15ish at the Spirit leads.

June 13, 2005 11:12 AM

Blogger john o'keefe said...

i love the deconstructing of why we pray for healing, and for whom we pray for - i have been thinking of that same thing this past week. we think we are doing "good" yet it is to benefit us, or the one we love - i remember once saying that it is easy to love the cute - just as it is easy to pray for those we love :)

June 13, 2005 8:33 PM

Anonymous Grant said...

Sounds awesome! I was talking With Brittany, (my girlfriend/part of The Gathering) about how God wants everyone to be healed, but like you said Shaunna, (or Jeffrey) that our idea of healing isn't always what God wants. It was really cool to think about, and was encouraging to me to actually ask God for the supernatural power through J.C. "You have not because you ask not" So thanks guys for doing what your doing. Know that your affecting more people than just yourselves, but also people in Denver, Co! Rock on Jeffery!
P.S there are two "with[s]" in the last sentence of your "about me"

June 17, 2005 9:32 AM


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